Key precept: How hybrids and giants are produced after the flood.
Nimrod 1927 AM – 2142 AM (contemporary with Noah to Abraham and Lot)
Noah was a preacher for the 600 years he lived before the flood, and you can be sure he continued to preach during the 350 years he lived after the flood. There are even suggestions, from American legends, that he spread the gospel to the New World. Traveling in a boat, of course. Tragically, as the earth repopulated, most people ignored Noah’s preaching and the evidence of God’s judgment.
“And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.” (Luke 17:26-30)
If we want to fully understand what the end times are like, we should determine what ungodly conditions were present in both the pre- and post-flood days of Noah, and in the days of Lot.
For starters, there were giants.
“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.” (Gen 6:4)
Exactly how giants were produced after the flood has been hotly debated.
The first interpretation is to take “when the sons of the God came in unto the daughters of men” as an explanation of how giants were produce. In this case, in both eras – “in those days; and also after that” – giants were produced by direct sexual congress with angels.
This implies that these angels survived the flood, which, actually, they did, since the flood only drowned air-breathing beings who couldn’t escape from the earth. And angels are immortal.
“And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven…and the mountains were covered. And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground…” (Gen 6:19-23)
However, we are told that the angels who engaged in forbidden sexual activities were imprisoned.
“…who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb? When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it, And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors, And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed? Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place; That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken.” (Job 38:8-15)
“God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly…making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;” (II Pet 2:4-6)
The argument is made, purely on assumption without evidence, that other angels must have taken over the job. However, these passages pretty much rule out that possibility, given the warning of the eternal fiery vengeance befalling those who engage in such activities. This view is supported by all the non-canonical writings, not surprisingly, since these are the sources from which Peter, and Jude as we shall see shortly, obtained their information about the angels’ judgment.
In addition, the reports by ancient mythologies / histories of the demigods / hybrids produced by sexual intercourse between the gods and humans place these circumstances and creatures in the remote past, in the world prior to the flood. We have not seen the fantastic superhuman offspring of angel/god-human unions like satyrs, in material form since the flood destroyed these creatures.
That opens an alternative explanation for the post-flood production of giants. There is in fact another grammatically legitimate way to understand this phrase, which is to interpret “when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men” at face value, an explanation of when there were giants – “in those days.” In that case, “and also after that” is a parenthetical indication of another era when giants were produced in other ways.
“There were giants in the earth in those days; (and also after that,) when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men,
or you could phrase it
“There were giants in the earth in those days, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and also after that…”
Why make this phrasing so open to multiple interpretations? God deliberately speaks mysteriously, you know.
“…it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. For whosoever hath [faith that God’s word is true], to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath…because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand...For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.” (Matthew 13:11-16)
So since Jesus warned us that pre-apocalyptic situation happens again, let’s have faith that he also revealed to us how were hybrid giants were produced after the flood. Rather than speculate, let’s examine scripture.
The first recorded post-flood mighty man of renown is Nimrod, Noah’s great-grandson.
“And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.” (Gen 10:8)
The wording that Nimrod began to be a mighty one suggests that Nimrod progressively changed through some transformative process. This could have been initiated by, and exclusively affected, Nimrod. Examples of this kind of process are bodybuilding or the use of methamphetamine by the German army to create “super soldiers” capable of enduring the Blitzkreig war tactics of many sleepless days of hard labor. If steroidal hormone drugs were used, this would also account for the notoriously aggressive exploits as driven by ‘roid rage.
However, the effects wear off as soon as the body builder stops exercising or soldiers stop using drugs, does not account for increased height, and is not passed down to subsequent generations – the tribes of giants reported in the Bible.
Pituitary tumors that trigger excess production of growth hormone account for most historically known cases of gigantism. However, these giants suffer from crippling bone ailments so aren’t mighty.
Scientifically, there is no question that gigantism is a result of genetic activity. They are either failing to check, or increasing, growth processes in response to chemical messengers – taken as drugs or excessively produced hormones.
The real question here is, which genes, and what are they controlling?
The pre-flood giants produced by the genes of angels gone wild are definitely a different breed from modern giants produced by the genes of human metabolics gone wild.
The post-flood defining criteria is highly suggestive of the same pre-flood genetic supernatural empowerment by angels.
“…when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men...” (Genesis 6:4)
“Nimrod, he began to be a mighty one in the earth.” (Gen 10:8)
The Apostle Peter links the activity of the fallen angels in the pre-flood world with the post-flood era. To highlight his main points, he subordinated these points, but to clarify this connection I’ve moved some phrases. I don’t think this changes the meaning of the text at all, simply highlights a different one of the many issues he addresses. If, however, the reader thinks I’m twisting the text, the proof or rebuttal to this lies in the presence or lack of supporting texts following.
- “For if God spared not the angels / gods and the old world [of hybrids / demigods] that sinned [in a particular sexual manner], but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment…
- bringing in the flood upon the [preflood] world of the ungodly AND turning the [postflood] cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those [angels AND humans] that after should live ungodly [seeking empowerment through hybridization];
- The Lord knoweth how…the unjust…be punished…
- that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness..…
- these, as natural brute beasts [not full humans], made to be taken and destroyed [not mortal humans to be redeemed]…
- shall utterly perish in their own corruption [hybridization]…
- Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls…
- Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor…they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness.” (II Peter 2:9-18)
So how is Balaam’s way linked to the angels?
“And Balak the son of Zippor saw all that Israel had done [in war] to the Amorites [hybrid giants, see post The Promised Land]…And Balak…sent messengers therefore unto Balaam the son of Beor…Come now therefore, I pray thee, curse me this people; for they are too mighty for me…
and [here is the way of Balaam leading to Israel’s destruction:] the people began to commit whoredom with the daughters of Moab. And they called the people unto the sacrifices of their gods: and the people did eat, and bowed down to their gods.
And Israel joined himself unto Baalpeor:” (Numbers 22:2-6, 25:1-3)
The best visualization and conceptualization of this situation would be Woodstock, America’s iconic anti-war, pro- sex, drugs and rock and roll event.
Peter’s reference to the Balaam account gives us the biblical answer to how hybrid giants were produced after the flood.
The same way. Sons of God having sex with the daughters of men.
But with a twist.
- The preflood sons of God were angels who contributed hyerdimensional genes to fully human women.
- The postflood sons of God were fully human men, and women contributed angelic genes which had been passed down through generations from the original angelic donors through their hybrid offspring, and carried through the flood by at least one female passenger on Noah’s ark.
This deduction is made using hermeneutics applied to scripture, not guesswork.
In the previous post A New World Order “Israel” was determined to be the title – not personal name – Prince of God. This automatically places this individual, and the people he leads, in the larger category of uncorrupted human “sons of God”, as described in the post Seed of the Serpent.
“And Jacob said, O God of my father Abraham, and God of my father Isaac, the LORD which saidst unto me, Return unto thy country, and to thy kindred, and I will deal well with thee…I will surely do thee good, and make thy seed as the sand of the sea, which cannot be numbered for multitude…and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day…And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he [Jacob] said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me. And he said unto him, What is thy name / identity? And he said, Jacob / Usurper. And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Isra-el / Contends with God: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed…” (Genesis 32)
Notice how Jacob changed from contending with God in the sense of an adversary, to contending with God in the sense of an ally, joining forces against a common enemy. This is true of everyone who converts and becomes a son of God.
The identification of Israel’s offspring / nation as likewise identified as “sons of God” is more clearly articulated in another, similar, passage paralleling Israel’s joining with Baal through the daughters of Moab.
“And the LORD said to Hosea…the land [of Israel] hath committed great whoredom, departing from the LORD…I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel…for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God.
Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be [in the future] as the sand of the sea…and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye ARE the sons of the living God…
And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi [“Exactly The Same As Me”, as Adam called the helpmeet God cloned for him, related in post King’s Dominion] ; and shalt call me no more Baali / my Lord, Boss. For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth…I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know [be identified, through total connection, with] the LORD...
For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince [of God, an “Isra-el”, and without a sacrifice…Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king…and his goodness in the latter days.” (Hosea 1-3)
The propagation of hybrid offspring through transmitting genes is also obliquely referenced in the statement that Nimrod “began to be a mighty one.” When we move beyond our limited English understand of “began” and allow the Hebrew Bible to be our dictionary, we discover that the Hebrew word חָלַל translated here as “began” is also translated “the same was the first“. This is commonly stated as “began a dynasty.”
“And Cush begat Nimrod: חָלַל the same was the first [after the “old world” pre-flood hybrids were wiped out in the flood] mighty one in the earth.” (Gen 10:8)
“And Cush begat Nimrod: he was חָלַל a sexually defiled mighty one in the earth.” (Gen 10:8)
“And Cush begat Nimrod: he was חָלַל a profane devil-worshipping mighty one in the earth.” (Gen 10:8)
When we compile the data we enlarge our understanding of what this verse is reporting about Nimrod. He is the founder of a dynasty of hybrid angelic-human evil satanic rulers.
As discussed in the previous post, angelic offspring are distinguished by the activity of specifically angelic genes. If the judgment associated the flood indeed put a stop to angels having sexual intercourse with human women, then any angelic genes producing giant traits after the flood would have had to have already been in one or more humans who survived the flood on the ark.
And that is certainly possible.
We are told that Noah was “perfect in his generations” (Gen 6:9), i.e. his genes were uncorrupted. Let’s assume that includes not just his prior but his successive generations, i.e. his sons. That would mean Noah’s wife also had an uncorrupted genes. Nothing is said, however, about any of the daughters-in-law on the ark. Giant genes could have been in their genomes, without anyone knowing, even themselves.
As was discussed in the previous blog, a human baby inherits genes from each parent. A baby born from an angel-human union was called a demi(half) god, or 1/2 angel, so would have strongly expressed superhuman traits. Please don’t get riled up about the following visual examples. They are just about the mix of genes from two parents, most easily observed in physical traits. I am not equating Africans with the bad guys, or sneaking in a denouncement of “miscegenation.” My own children’s father is not Caucasian.
In our not-too-distant past, the 1st generation child of a mixed African / European union was known as mulatto, or high yellow. A child from the union of the mulatto with a European partner would again get 1/2 of his/her genes from each parent, which means approximately 1/4 non-European, showing less evidence of his/her non-European grandparent’s genetics. These 2nd generation, 1/4 non-Europeans, were known as quadroon. Their mainly European, yet exotic looks, made the women highly prized as consorts by wealthy European and American men, and like the characteristic sex trades in San Francisco or Las Vegas today, were historically part of the draw of New Orleans.
You can see that if the quadroon woman has a baby from the European man, the non-European traits, now only 1/8th, would become imperceptible. For this reason, as obsessed as Nazi Germany was with ferreting out Jewishness, their complicated system only tracked back to the grandparents. An individual was designated Jewish only if he/she was at least 1/4 Jewish, i.e. had one Jewish grandparent. Anything less, such as one great-grandparent, didn’t matter.
Likewise, the expression of angelic traits would be lost through dilution in successive generations of mixing with humans. This is exactly what would be expected in the record that the angels and their 1st generation demigods/giants were taken out of the mix, unable to continue infusing substantial amounts of angelic genes.
And against the angels whom He had sent upon the earth, He was exceedingly wroth, and He gave commandment to root them out of all their dominion, and He bade us to bind them in the depths of the earth, and behold they are bound in the midst of them, and are (kept) separate. And against their sons went forth a command from before His face that they should be smitten with the sword, and be removed from under heaven. (Jubilees 5)
However, some of the genes could still persist in the descendants of the original genetic contributor. The traits could be hidden for generations, no evidence showing, then surprisingly surface in a child whose parents both carried the gene(s), in a process called atavism. This can be seen in genes which are recessive, like light colored hair, skin and eyes. In the example shown the twins are not identical (one fertilized egg splits in two), just conceived at the same time (two separate fertilized eggs), with a different collection of genes from each parent. In this case, both parents had light genes from their parents which were overshadowed by their dark genes so didn’t show in them, but one of their children got only the light genes – and no dark genes – from each parent.
The key concept to grasp here is that recessive genes don’t express their traits until they combine in a child who gets a full set of two, one from each parent. Any one or more of Noah’s daughters-in-law could have been carrying hidden, recessive giant genes. They would be “carriers”.
According to the rules of autosomal recessive inheritance, no giant traits would appear in children born to a carrier mother and any of the three pure sons of Noah – Ham, Shem and Japheth. These genes would still remain hidden in children who inherited any recessive angel genes from a carrier mother, because the other half of the pair came from a purely human son of Noah.
Hints of recessive genes can show up in someone who is a carrier. Green eyes, for example. Occasionally recessive blue eye genes blend with, rather than are overshadowed by, dominant brown eye genes. This is especially likely when multiple pairs of genes are involved, as would be the case in the multiple facets of gigantism. With this in mind, Noah’s malediction against Ham’s son Canaan may have been based on recognition of subtle signs of gigantism in Canaan, not a curse causing bondage but an observation acknowledging the inevitable bondage resulting from sex obsessed individuals, who lose the ability to function effectively enough in society to be independent and self-sufficient. As we shall see, obsession with sex is a trait passed down from the original angels to their offspring, and to their followers.
”And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him. And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.” (Gen 9:22-25)
Back to our main thread – when two of Noah’s grandchildren partner up, there is now a chance that each parent carries the recessive giant genes. When they produce offspring, i.e. Noah’s great-grandchildren, there is now a chance of having the recessive genes passed down to the child from each parent, with the child inheriting the full set of genes, and now expressing the traits. And that is exactly the pattern of inheritance that we find in Nimrod.
In the following diagram a shape that is only half colored indicates the presence of only one half of the recessive genes. This is a carrier with the genotype, i.e. having the genes but not expressing the traits. A shape that is fully colored indicates the presence of the full set of recessive genes, half from each parent, so expressing the trait, i.e. having the phenotype.
Think of the square in the top row as Ham, and the circle as his carrier wife. Any of their sons and (unnamed) daughters could inherit the giant genes from their carrier mother, and also be carriers. When two carriers in this or a later generation get together, they can now produce a child, Noah’s great-grandson, who gets giant genes from each parent. With a full set of giant genes, represented as a solid black square (male) or circle (female), this child does express the recessive, giant traits.
- “Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah…Ham…
- And the sons of Ham; Cush…
- And Cush begat Nimrod: [Noah’s great-grandson] he began to be a mighty one in the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, [i.e. he is famous, renown] Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. ” (Genesis 10:1-9)
The statement that Nimrod “began to be” suggests two things, both of which support the hypothesis that Nimrod’s mighty nature was a genetic condition which he inherited from his parents, and which he passed down to his offspring.
The first clue is that Nimrod is documented as being “begat” by Cush, not born to an angel father. His mighty traits developed over time as his inherited angelic genes were activated by internal and environmental factors like puberty, substances, epigenetics and occult activities. It is well known that genes only provide a predisposition to certain traits, which are then either suppressed or manifested by the choices made by the individual.
Nimrod began to be a mighty one as he chose to exploit the potential afforded by his genetic makeup. Think of it like a tall teenager choosing to devote his time to becoming a basketball star, or a child with musical talent practicing every day. If they don’t put their effort into developing the special abilities made possible by their genetics, they don’t achieve their potential.
Notice how Jasher’s account of Nimrod’s rise to power as a warrior is standard practice in every lawless society. Our own Wild West experience raised Indian fighters and lawmen to cult hero status, reflected in the hugely popular TV series Gunsmoke.
“And the people and princes of Gilead said one to another, What man is he that will begin to fight against the children of Ammon? he shall be head over all the inhabitants of Gilead.” (Judg 10:18)
And Nimrod strengthened himself, and he rose up from amongst his brethren, and he fought the battles of his brethren against all their enemies round about. And the Lord delivered all the enemies of his brethren in his hands, and God prospered him from time to time in his battles, and he reigned upon earth. Therefore it became current in those days, when a man ushered forth those that he had trained up for battle, he would say to them, Like God did to Nimrod, who was a mighty hunter in the earth, and who succeeded in the battles that prevailed against his brethren, that he delivered them from the hands of their enemies, so may God strengthen us and deliver us this day. And when Nimrod was forty years old, at that time there was a war between his brethren and the children of Japheth, so that they were in the power of their enemies. And Nimrod went forth at that time, and he assembled all the sons of Cush and their families, about four hundred and sixty men, and he hired also from some of his friends and acquaintances about eighty men, and be gave them their hire, and he went with them to battle, and when he was on the road, Nimrod strengthened the hearts of the people that went with him. And he said to them, Do not fear, neither be alarmed, for all our enemies will be delivered into our hands, and you may do with them as you please. And all the men that went were about five hundred, and they fought against their enemies, and they destroyed them, and subdued them, and Nimrod placed standing officers over them in their respective places. And he took some of their children as security, and they were all servants to Nimrod and to his brethren, and Nimrod and all the people that were with him turned homeward. And when Nimrod had joyfully returned from battle, after having conquered his enemies, all his brethren, together with those who knew him before, assembled to make him king over them, and they placed the regal crown upon his head. And he set over his subjects and people, princes, judges, and rulers, as is the custom amongst kings…And whilst he was reigning according to his heart’s desire, after having conquered all his enemies around, he advised with his counselors to build a city for his palace, and they did so. And they found a large valley opposite to the east, and they built him a large and extensive city, and Nimrod called the name of the city that he built Shinar, for the Lord had vehemently shaken his enemies and destroyed them. And Nimrod dwelt in Shinar, and he reigned securely, and he fought with his enemies and he subdued them, and he prospered in all his battles, and his kingdom became very great. And all nations and tongues heard of his fame, and they gathered themselves to him, and they bowed down to the earth, and they brought him offerings, and he became their lord and king, and they all dwelt with him in the city at Shinar, and Nimrod reigned in the earth over all the sons of Noah, and they were all under his power and counsel. And all the earth was of one tongue and words of union, but Nimrod did not go in the ways of the Lord, and he was more wicked than all the men that were before him, from the days of the flood until those days. And he made gods of wood and stone, and he bowed down to them, and he rebelled against the Lord, and taught all his subjects and the people of the earth his wicked ways; and Mardon his son was more wicked than his father. And every one that heard of the acts of Mardon the son of Nimrod would say, concerning him, From the wicked goeth forth wickedness; therefore it became a proverb in the whole earth, saying, From the wicked goeth forth wickedness, and it was current in the words of men from that time to this.” (Jasher 7:31-48)
The second clue is that Nimrod began post-flood gigantism, i.e. he was the first post-flood giant, then others began showing up. Queen Victoria’s family tree of the inbred European royalty, while showing a slightly different pattern as an X-linked recessive trait so inherited only by sons from their mothers, is still a good example of the proliferation of a recessive trait (hemophilia in this case) that can be tracked back to the originator. A similar pattern of inheritance is seen in Ham’s descendants, scattered among relatives, becoming more common in later generations within certain people groups due to inbreeding between relatives with the same genes.
The Hamitic gigantism inheritance pattern is a significant clue that post-flood gigantism was introduced and maintained through recessive genes, since inbreeding brings out recessive genetic traits. Noah’s grandsons had no option but to marry close relatives, so any recessive traits were bound to surface.
Nimrod is said to have married his mother Semiramis. Since both parents have to carry giant genes in order for them to express fully in their offspring, a reasonable explanation for this unsavory union is the intentional strategy of stacking the genetic deck for the highest odds of reproducing another superhuman. Deliberate inbreeding to pull out specific traits is a well-known strategy commonly practiced with dogs and cattle but also practiced with humans, significantly, among rulers. Inbreeding was the reason Queen Victoria’s hemophilia ran rampant among European royalty.
Another reasonable explanation is the intentional practice of polyploidy hybridization techniques to produce hybrids who can reproduce between themselves. To follow this explanation, a glossary is helpful.
- di-ploid: di = two paired chromosomes per set in the entire collection / ploid. Pairs of chromosomes is the normal arrangement for humans & most other organisms. This allows diversity, like color, through the paired sets / alleles.
- ha-ploid: ha=half the number of chromosomes in a gamete (egg or sperm cell), just one of each pair for humans, with the paired chromosomes coming from a second parent.
- poly-ploid: poly=more than double the haploid gamete
- aneu-ploid: an-eu = ab-normal number of chromosomes in the entire collection / ploid, often due to an extra chromosome such as
- tri-ploid: tri = three chromosomes per set in the entire collection / ploid. This happens when the sperm or egg doesn’t reduce down to haploid but instead contributes a full, diploid, set of chromosomes to the other haploid gamete.
- allo-ploid:- allo = different species of chromosomes in an organism’s entire collection / ploid.
For a hybrid to be viable, i.e. capable of living, the chromosomes of the parents have to be similar enough to pair up during fertilization of the haploid egg by the haploid sperm and during mitosis, the process of cell multiplication where the same number of chromosomes is maintained.
For the resulting hybrid to also be fertile as a species, i.e. able to produce offspring by mating, the chromosomes also have to be an even number in order to form pairs during meiosis, the process of cell division into haploid gametes sperm and egg.
For example, horses have 64 chromosomes and donkeys have 62 chromosomes, giving their mixed offspring – mules or hinnies – 63 chromosomes. This odd number of chromosomes leaves one lone chromosome that can be carried along during mitosis but halts meiosis when that single chromosome has no partner during the process of equal distribution to haploid gametes.
Polyploid hybridization overcomes this odd-number constraint, creating hybrids with even numbers of chromosomes, hence the ability to reproduce after their own new kind. This simplified but scientifically accurate example of the formation of a hybrid in nature by accident explains why Nimrod would intentionally mate with his mother.
- Species B represents Semiramis with the human chromosomes, shown in red, capable of forming an egg cell (female gamete) with the built-in program to multiply and diversify from one cell into an entire complex organism, but also only the haploid number of chromosomes. She may also have angel chromosomes but these aren’t shown for the sake of simplicity.
- Species A represents Cush, the first male (in this process) to mate with Semiramis, with the alien chromosomes, shown in blue, diploid number. Cush got these alien chromosomes from his mother, Ham’s wife, who carried them through the flood as recessive genes scattered on mainly human chromosomes. Think of them like occasional colored beads on a mainly white bead necklace.
- During the normal process of meiosis to form eggs and sperm, genes “cross over” from one to the other of a pair of chromosomes. We can track the arrows in the graphic in either direction since the genes can move from either side to the other. In our case, follow the arrows backward as we are visualizing the crossing over of alien (the green) genes that are segregated on separate chromosomes until they cross over to recombine in newly aggregate chromosomes consisting primarily of alien genes.
- Transposons make up a class of genetic material that has a built-in mechanism for transferring and duplicating itself, and is likely involved here as well.
- By the time these chromosomes are reworked, first during meiosis of Cush’s mother’s egg, and then during the meiosis of his own sperm, they have developed into functionally alien chromosomes. Cush himself does not express these giant traits because he did not inherit complete sets of these chromosomes. They only congregated in the formation of his sperm.
- Cush is fertile, making sperm through meiosis because he has an even number of chromosomes. It is through the same fairly common departure-from-normal meiotic error that produces Down’s Syndrome that instead of just one, both copies of the alien chromosomes formed during spermatogenesis can be passed to Nimrod through a partially “unreduced” gamete / sperm along with the single human chromosomes from Cush. Combined with Semiramis’ single human chromosomes, this fertilized egg is capable of undergoing mitosis to develop into a complete viable hybrid organism, Nimrod, despite the uneven number of chromosomes, represented here as 7.
- But now, because of the odd number of chromosomes, the first generation hybrid, Nimrod, is unable to produce haploid gametes (sperm) through the normal process of meiosis. He can, however, because of his alien nature, produce fully diploid, unreduced gametes, by cloning.
- The best donor to provide matches for the missing human chromosomes in this process of perfecting hybridization is the original donor of the existing half set – the mother.
- Now the resulting offspring of this union is a fertile hybrid.
Implausible? The European edible frog, a triploid hybrid between pool frogs and marsh frogs, provides an actual example of this process. Like hybrid mules, edible frogs end up with an odd number of chromosomes from having parents from different species, therefore they can’t produce gametes through meiosis which requires lining up in pairs to split in half. Despite this drawback, they are fertile through “hemi/half cloning” then backcrossing with one of the parent species in a process called hybridogenesis.
- All cells starts with the full number of chromosomes (A). In order to form a more perfect union with another individual to create a unique 3rd individual, the full number of chromosomes must be reduced during the formation of a gamete, since chromosomes vying for control of cell functions is inherently unstable, and does in fact, define cancer.
- But instead of through the most common process where all possible combinations of both parental (red and green) chromosomes are shuffled then halved (B),
- the edible frog discards the entire collection of chromosomes inherited from the (red) pool frog and keeps only the collection of chromosomes from the (green) marsh frog.
- Since the entire set of chromosomes is passed to the gamete without shuffling and halving, this is a form of cloning, called “hemi (half) clonal” reproduction.
- This cloned egg is fertilized by sperm from the original parent (red) pool frog population in a potentially incestuous union.
Incest is also suggested among the Philistine giants, as one of Goliath’s four sons is also called the brother.
“And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span [9.5 ft]…armed with a coat of mail; and the weight of the coat was five thousand shekels of brass…and the staff of his spear was like a weaver’s beam; and his spear’s head weighed six hundred shekels of iron… ” (I Sam 17:4-7)
- “And Ishbi-benob, which was of the sons of the giant, the weight of whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of brass…thought to have slain David. But Abishai [David’s nephew]…killed him…
- then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant…
- Elhanan…a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam.
- And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. And…Jonathan the son of Shimeah the brother of David slew him.”
These four were born to the giant in Gath.” (II Sam 21:16-22)
Goliath and his kin were only some of the giants the Israelites had to battle to reclaim their inheritance. These giants are specifically stated to have been descended from other giants, not born to angels. Significantly, the word “giants” in Numbers is translated from “nephilim“, linking these post-flood giants with the pre-flood giants.
“We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we…The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature. And there we saw the giants/nephilim, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants/nephilim: and we were…as grasshoppers.” (Nu 13:31-33) with “There were giants/nephilim in the earth in those days; and also after that…(Gen 6:4)
These panic-stricken warrior spies were not using hyperbole when they reported that the inhabitants were being eaten up.
Cannibalism…has been found in nearly all primitive tribes…In the Upper Congo living men, women and children were bought and sold frankly as articles of food; on the island of New Britain human meat was sold in shops…and in some of the Solomon Islands human victims, preferably women, were fattened for a feast like pigs…Everywhere among nature peoples blood is regarded as a delicacy…Human blood is constantly drunk by tribes otherwise kindly and generous; sometimes as medicine, sometimes as a rite or covenant, often in the belief that it will add to the drinker the vital force of the victim….primitive man seems to have recognized no distinction in morals between eating men and eating other animals…
“Why,” you might ask, “would God allow gigantism to survive the flood when he had just used the flood to eliminate it?” Well, for starters, the flood was not a judgment against giants. The flood was a judgment against the wickedness and violence of humans.
“And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them…And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.” (Gen 6:5-13)
The giants who proceeded from angel fathers killed each other off prior to the flood.
“To Gabriel also the Lord said, Go to the biters, to the reprobates, to the children of fornication; and destroy the children of fornication, the offspring of the Watchers, from among men; bring them forth, and excite them one against another. Let them perish by mutual slaughter; for length of days shall not be theirs.” (Enoch 10:13)
In any case, we should consider the flood as one intervention in time, not a permanent solution to a problem. We should not be surprised to find the forces of evil, in any guise, resurfacing in our lives, whether addictive behaviors or people or demons that cause us to stumble and fall. It is a sad truth that humans mostly turn to God when we are in trouble. So he allows trouble to drive us to him.
“And they forsook the LORD, and served Baal and Ashtaroth. And the anger of the Lord was hot…and he delivered them into the hands of spoilers that spoiled them, and he sold them into the hands of their enemies round about, so that they could not any longer stand before their enemies…and they were greatly distressed. Nevertheless the Lord raised up judges, which delivered them out of the hand of those that spoiled them. And yet they would not hearken unto their judges, but they went a whoring after other gods, and bowed themselves unto them: they turned quickly out of the way which their fathers walked in, obeying the commandments of the LORD; but they did not so. And when the LORD raised them up judges, then the LORD was with the judge, and delivered them out of the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge: for it repented the LORD because of their groanings by reason of them that oppressed them and vexed them.” (Judg 2:13-18)
“…deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.” (I Cor 5:5)
The re-establishment of humanity’s dominion over the earth is not a smooth transition of power that just happens by asking God to do it for us. It’s an ongoing battle in which God’s people are expected to join the fight to save others once they have themselves have found salvation. Later in history we find the gigantic descendants of Ham specifically identified as agents allowed by God to prove, test, strengthen his people’s faith in him.
“And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim [Egypt], and Phut [Libya], and Canaan. And the sons of Cush Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan. And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before [facing off against] the LORD. And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar…And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim. And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth, And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite, And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite, And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha. These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.” (Gen 10:6-20)
“Now these are the nations which the Lord left, to prove Israel by them, even as many of Israel as had not known all the wars of Canaan; Only that the generations of the children of Israel might know, to teach them war, at the least such as before knew nothing thereof; Namely, five lords of the Philistines, and all the Canaanites, and the Sidonians, and the Hivites that dwelt in mount Lebanon, from mount Baalhermon unto the entering in of Hamath. And they were to prove Israel by them, to know whether they would hearken unto the commandments of the Lord, which he commanded their fathers by the hand of Moses.” (Judg 3:1-4)
The realization that some of these nations were composed of intrinsically violent monsters intent on destroying humanity sheds light on God’s battlefield instructions to utterly destroy these people groups – at that time and in those circumstances. These instructions should not be misapplied to other people groups.
“When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites,and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:” (Deu 7:1-2)
“…the men which Moses sent to spy out the land…of Canaan, and said unto them, Get you up this way southward, and go up into the mountain: And see the land, what it is, and the people that dwelleth therein, whether they be strong or weak, few or many…So they went up, and searched the land from the wilderness of Zin unto Rehob, as men come to Hamath. And they ascended by the south, and came unto Hebron; where Ahiman, Sheshai, and Talmai, the children of Anak, were.
(Now Hebron was built [by Canaanites] seven years before Zoan in Egypt[~1720 BC, or 400 yrs after the flood, when Abram was about 200 yrs old and had been sent to the land of Canaan to reclaim it for God’s chosen people. In other words, this is a strong fortress]…
And they returned from searching of the land after forty days. And they went and came to Moses, and to Aaron, and to all the congregation of the children of Israel…And they told him, and said…the people be strong that dwell in the land, and the cities are walled, and very great: and moreover we saw the children of Anak there. The Amalekites dwell in the land of the south: and the Hittites, and the Jebusites, and the Amorites, dwell in the mountains: and the Canaanites dwell by the sea, and by the coast of Jordan…We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we. And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature. And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight. (Nu 13:16-33)
“And the Lord spake unto me [Moses], saying…command thou the people, saying, Ye are to pass through the coast of your brethren the children of Esau…Meddle not with them; for I will not give you of their land, no, not so much as a foot breadth; because I have given mount Seir unto Esau for a possession...And the Lord said unto me, Distress not the Moabites, neither contend with them in battle: for I will not give thee of their land for a possession; because I have given Ar unto the children of Lot for a possession. The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites called them Emims. The Horims also dwelt in Seir beforetime; but the children of Esau succeeded them, when they had destroyed them from before them, and dwelt in their stead; as Israel did unto the land of his possession, which the Lord gave unto them.” (Deut 2:2-12)
“All the kingdom of Og in Bashan…who remained of the remnant of the giants…did Moses smite, and cast them out. (Josh 13:12)
”And the children of Joseph spake unto Joshua, saying, Why hast thou given me but one lot and one portion to inherit, seeing I am a great people, forasmuch as the Lord hath blessed me hitherto? And Joshua answered them, If thou be a great people, then get thee up to the wood country, and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the giants, if mount Ephraim be too narrow for thee…thou shalt drive out the Canaanites, though they have iron chariots, and though they be strong.” (Josh 17:14-18)
As time passed, there would be less and less evidence of gigantism in the individuals inheriting some angel genes, for a couple of reasons. The main reason would be that time is needed to maximize growth and development, and lifespans were cut short after the flood. Another reason is that the full complement of growth-enhancing genes wouldn’t always be included in the haploid gamete (egg or sperm) after the process of meiosis shuffled and divided the contributing parent’s genes in half. Finally, the percentage of angel genes carried by hybrids in the population as a whole would be diluted over time by the far greater number of human genes carried by pure humans.
This process can be seen in the extinction of the Neanderthals and the Denisovans as separate species. While always discounting mainstream science’s pervasive evolutionary paradigm with its exaggerated time frames and its practice of inflating minor fossil findings into outrageous assertions of fact, one can consider the possibility that there is genetic evidence that the Neanderthals and the Denisovans are related, but separate species from our own Homo Sapiens. From a biblical viewpoint, the explanation would be that they were among the hybrids produced by the angels. Might the traces of their foreign genes in the current human genome be proof that angel genes were carried through the flood on the ark?
This raises the question, what percentage of non-homo sapiens genes does it take to define someone as a hybrid? Are such people doomed to perdition like the giants, excluded from the possibility of salvation? To answer that question, we need to know the fate of the giants.
Interestingly, the Bible doesn’t report what happened to the abominable angel-human hybrids resulting from the perverse sexual behavior of the fallen angels. We find that information in the book of Enoch which was a respected source in Jesus’ day, as evidenced by being quoted by Jesus, Peter, James, Jude and John.
...as to the death of the giants, wheresoever their spirits depart from their bodies, let their flesh, that which is perishable, be without judgment [in other words, will not be resurrected on judgment day.] Thus shall they perish, until the day of the great consummation of the great world. Enoch 16:1
So hybrids are doomed. But is it genetics? The giants are reported to have perishable flesh like humans, which we have previously analyzed to be a positive condition, allowing as it does for transformation, not only for growth and development in this life but to eternal life after death. But expressly not for hybrids. Something to do with their angelic nature, obviously, found in the reference to their spirits. Let’s start analyzing this with what we know.
We know that humans have mortal life via spirit connectedness to our bodies and souls. This spirit, AKA wind or breath, is the medium that carries the life-sustaining and energizing oxygen. It was originally given to humans when it was breathed into Adam by God,
“And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” (Gen 2:7)
However, after that first installment from God, spirit / life was transferred from Adam to the next human through living stem cells in bone tissue,
“And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.” (Gen 2:22-23)
Subsequently the life / spirit was then transferred into all human descendants through the mitochondria in the living egg.
So humans receive their human spirit from their human mother empowering them to live a mortal life. Empowerment to living eternal life comes through receiving, not just a resuscusitation passed down for 6,000 years from Adam’s original single gasp, but the full measure of God’s eternal Spirit through permanent connectedness, gluing together, sealing.
“And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:” (Joh 20:22)
“But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us [made us alive] together with The Chosen One/Christ.” (Eph 2:4-5)
“…in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession…” (Eph 1:13-14)
The key identification as a human vs hybrid is one whose spirit came from God and returns to God.
“Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” (Ecc 12:7)
Now let’s use what we know to logical deduce what happens with hybrids.
- Human mothers, “daughters of Eve”, pass on the life-sparking spirit through the maternal mitochondria.
- Supernatural empowerment by the spirit father comes through supercharging the human spirit with the alien / angelic spirit through a spectrum ranging from mild influence to total possession of the body. This is the condition Jude calls “twice dead” as the life-sustaining human spirit is systematically pealed away from the body and mind and replaced by the leach spirit. This contrasts sharply with “born again” through the Holy Spirit where humans are encouraged to allow the Holy Spirit to control them, but remain free to accept or reject spirit prompting.
- The angels’ spirits, however, like the first human’s spirit, is only a tiny fraction of God’s omnipresent spirit filling all in all, and can’t provide eternal life without connection to God. Therefore, the hybrid is doomed to eternal death, separated from the source of eternal life. Even the human spirit, evil and corrupted now, bonded to a fallen angel spirit, is not welcome back to God.
Our logical deduction is confirmed by Enoch, who reports that the giants who were strategically killed off prior to the flood were a combination of 1) mortal flesh and 2) an eternal spirit that came from a fallen angel. They were perversions of the only begotten Son of God whose Spirit comes from God the Father.
”And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest…The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.” (Lu 1:30-35)
“And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. Now when the centurion saw what was done, he glorified God, saying, Certainly this was a righteous man.” (Luke 23:46)
So where do these evil mutant hybrid fallen angels’ spirits go then?
O righteous Enoch, thou scribe of righteousness…Go, say to the Watchers of heaven…Wherefore have you forsaken the lofty and holy heaven, which endures for ever [the hyper-dimensions whose mysteries are just beginning to be explored by physicists], and have lain with women [reducing themselves to four dimensions in the process]; have defiled yourselves with the daughters of men...and have begotten an impious offspring?
You being spiritual, holy, and possessing a life [spirit] which is eternal, have polluted yourselves with women; have begotten in carnal [fleshly, mortal] blood; have lusted in the blood of men; and have done as those who are flesh and blood do. These however die and perish. Therefore have I given to them wives, that they might cohabit with them; that sons might be born of them; and that this might be transacted upon earth. But you from the beginning were made spiritual, possessing a life which is eternal, and not subject to death for ever. Therefore I made not wives for you, because, being spiritual, your dwelling is in heaven.
Now the giants, who lave been born of spirit and of flesh, shall be called upon earth evil spirits, and on earth shall be their habitation. Evil spirits shall proceed from their flesh, because they were created from above; from the holy Watchers was their beginning and primary foundation. Evil spirits shall they be upon earth, and the spirits of the wicked [angels] shall they be called. The habitation of the spirits of [purely] heaven shall be in heaven; but upon earth shall be the habitation of terrestrial [hybrid] spirits, who are born on earth [with human spirits from human mothers]. The spirits of the giants shall be like clouds, which shall oppress, corrupt, fall, contend, and bruise upon earth. They shall cause lamentation. No food shall they eat; and they shall be thirsty; they shall be concealed, and…come forth during the days of slaughter and destruction. Enoch 15
Enoch’s account is consistent with the Bible’s many reports of encounters with evil spirits. As immaterial spirits, demons are only able to express themselves by inhabiting, for the purpose of controlling, the bodies of humans. To feel what this must be like, consider the condition of a patient I once had. A man in his 90’s, he could barely walk and spent all day lying in bed. He was deaf and blind so couldn’t pass the time in any form of mental distraction. His taste buds had faded away so he couldn’t enjoy food.
“When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest [from the tedium of life, relaxation, comfort], and findeth none. Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out.” (Mat 12:43-44)
“And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way. And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time? And there was a good way off from them an herd of many swine feeding. So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine. And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters. (Mat 8:28-32)
“When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God most high? I beseech thee, torment me not. (For he had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For oftentimes it had caught him: and he was kept bound with chains and in fetters; and he brake the bands, and was driven of the devil into the wilderness.) And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name? And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him. And they besought him that he would not command them to go out into the deep.” (Lu 8:28-31)
What we conclude is that anyone born as a human from human parents with an originally God-given spirit, even if some non-human DNA has been introduced into their genome, would be able to be saved through 1) joint identification with The Savior’s death on behalf of humanity and 2) connection with the Holy Spirit.
“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” (John 6:53)
Any angelic genes can be locked down by epigenetics. The line is crossed when one accesses another means of achieving immortality than the one provided by Jesus Christ’s substitutionary death. History is replete with accounts of sorcery-enabled methods for living forever such as ritual mummification, vampirism, and zombification.
The Egyptian priests either acknowledged Alexander as, or elevated him to, a demigod, and definitely performed rites to turn his deceased intimate friend Hephaestion into an immortal divine hero, AKA living dead. Current technology is developing inhuman means of perpetuating or resurrecting life.
Jude, the writer who quotes Enoch verbatim and parallels Peter, does warn us that humans can be doomed to destruction by “separating themselves” from their God-given spirit and joining themselves – significantly, through sexual activity – to evil spirits.
“…there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that
- the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not [but instead worshipped the golden calf through “playing”, i.e. an orgy.]
- And the angels which kept not their first estate / hyperdimensions, but left their own habitation / bodies, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. (with Job 38:13-15 – (they stand as a garment. And from the wicked their light is withholden…”)
- Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
- Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh….what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. Woe unto them!…
- clouds they are [appearance of but] without [lifegiving] water, carried about of winds [controlled by spirits];
- trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit,
- twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
- Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame;
- wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
- And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him…But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
- These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
- of some have compassion, making a difference:
- And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.” (Jude 3-23)
Evil Spirits and the Sexual Revolution
Evil spirits / demons, like sexually transmitted infections, are contagious, and can be passed from body to body through sexual activity.
“Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.” (I Cor 6:15-18)
A surge in demonic activity, empowered by Rome’s sexualized society, was a hallmark of The Savior’s first coming.
…the Christian ethic clashed harshly with Roman sexual morality. Matthew Rueger writes about this in his fascinating work Sexual Morality in a Christless World and, based on his work, I want to point out 3 ugly features of Roman sexuality, how the Bible addressed them, and how this challenges us today.
Roman Sexuality Was About Dominance
Romans did not think in terms of sexual orientation. Rather, sexuality was tied to ideas of masculinity, male domination, and the adoption of the Greek pursuit of beauty. “In the Roman mind, the strong took what they wanted to take. It was socially acceptable for a strong Roman male to have intercourse with men or women alike, provided he was the aggressor. It was looked down upon to play the female ‘receptive’ role in homosexual liaisons.”
A real man dominated in the bedroom as he did on the battlefield. He would have sex with his slaves whether they were male or female; he would visit prostitutes; he would have homosexual encounters even while married; he would engage in pederasty (see below); even rape was generally acceptable as long as he only raped people of a lower status. “He was strong, muscular, and hard in both body and spirit. Society looked down on him only when he appeared weak or soft.” So Romans did not think of people as being oriented toward homosexuality or heterosexuality. Rather, they understood that a respectable man would express his dominance by having sex—consensual or forced—with men, women, and even children.
Roman Sexuality Accepted Pedophilia
The pursuit of beauty and the obsession with the masculine ideal led to the widespread practice of pederasty—a sexual relationship between an adult man and an adolescent boy. This had been a common feature of the Greek world and was adapted by the Romans who saw it as a natural expression of male privilege and domination. A Roman man would direct his sexual attention toward a slave boy or, at times, even a freeborn child, and would continue to do so until the boy reached puberty. These relationships were seen as an acceptable and even idealized form of love, the kind of love that expressed itself in poem, story, and song.
In the Roman world “a man’s wife was often seen as beneath him and less than him, but a sexual relationship with another male, boy or man, represented a higher form of intellectual love and engagement. It was a man joining with that which was his equal and who could therefore share experiences and ideas with him in a way he could not with a woman.” Pederasty—pedophilia—was understood to be good and acceptable.
Roman Sexuality Had a Low View of Womanhood
Women were not generally held in high regard in Roman culture. “Women were often seen as weak physically and mentally. They were inferior to men and existed to serve the men as little more than slaves at times.” A woman’s value was largely in her ability to bear children and if she could not do so, she was quickly cast off. Because lifespans were short and infant mortality high, women were often married off in their young teens to maximize the number of children they could bear.
When it came to sexual mores, women were held to a very different standard than men. Where men were free to carry on homosexual affairs and to commit adultery with slaves, prostitutes, and concubines, a woman caught in adultery could be charged with a crime. “The legal penalty for adultery allowed the husband to rape the male offender and then, if he desired, to kill his wife.” Under Augustus it even became illegal for a man to forgive his wife—he was forced to divorce her. “It is not enough to suggest that women were under-appreciated in Roman culture. There are many instances where they were treated as second-class human beings, slightly more honored than slaves.”
Sexual Promiscuity and Societal Stability
It becomes clear that Rome was a culture of extreme promiscuity and inequality. Those who had power—male citizens—were able to express their sexuality by taking who and what they wanted. Their culture’s brand of sexual morality was exemplified in the Caesars who, one after the other, “were living icons of immorality and cruelty,” using sex as a means of domination and self-gratification.
Yet this system, evil as it looks to our eyes, was accepted and even celebrated by Rome. It was foundational to Roman culture. To be a good Roman citizen a man needed to participate in it, or at least not protest against it. To be loyal to Rome, one had to be loyal to the morality of Rome. To the Romans, the biblical view “would have been seen as disruptive to the social fabric and demeaning of the Roman ideal of masculinity.” What we consider odious and exploitive, they considered necessary and good.
Christianity condemned the Roman system in its every part. According to the Roman ethic, a man displayed his masculinity in battlefield and bedroom dominance. In the Christian ethic, a man displayed his masculinity in chastity, in self-sacrifice, in deference to others, in joyfully refraining from all sexual activity except with his wife. The Roman understanding of virtue and love depended upon pederasty—the systematic rape of young boys. But the Christian sexual ethic limited intercourse to a married man and his wife. It protected children and gave them dignity. A Roman woman was accustomed to being treated as second-class human being but “in Christendom, a woman found a culture of genuine love that saw her as equally important as any man in the eyes of God. She was sexually equal with the man in the marriage union and had equal recourse under the law of God to demand marital fidelity.”
Do you see it? Christianity did not simply represent an alternate system of morality but one that condemned the existing system—the system that was foundational to Roman identity and stability. Christians were outsiders. Christians were traitors. Christians were dangerous. Their brand of morality threatened to destabilize all of society. No wonder, then, that they were scorned and even persecuted.
The Road From Rome
We can’t help but see connections between first century Rome and our twenty-first century world. “Our early Christian ancestors did not confess biblical chastity in a safe culture that naturally agreed with them. The sexual morality they taught and practiced stood out as unnatural to the Roman world… Christian sexual ethics that limited intercourse to the marriage of a man and a woman were not merely different from Roman ethics; they were utterly against Roman ideals of virtue and love.” This is exactly why Christians faced so much hostility. Their morality threatened society’s stability by loving and protecting the marginalized and disenfranchised while condemning (or even converting) those who took advantage of them.
Isn’t this the very thing happening again today? Our society is throwing off the last vestiges of the Christian sexual ethic and as it does so, we are once again outsiders and traitors who threaten to destabilize the whole system. As we insist that sex is to be limited to the marriage of one man to one woman we threaten the stability of a society hell-bent on permitting and celebrating nearly everything except sex within marriage. As we insist that people flourish only within God-given sexual boundaries, we threaten the ideals of virtue and love that demand no greater commitment than consent. As we live our moral lives according to a higher ethic, we silently condemn those who reject the whisper within.
Rueger says, “The first Christians were men and women of great courage. Confessing Christian morality always requires that spirit of bravery.” Indeed, confessing and practicing Christian morality today requires bravery, the willingness to obey God rather than men, even in the face of persecution. May God continue to instill that spirit within us.
”And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force…Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not… thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.” (Matt 11:12-24)
“The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God…And there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out, Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God. And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him. And when the unclean spirit had torn him, and cried with a loud voice, he came out of him. And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine [teaching] is this? for with authority commandeth he even the unclean spirits, and they do obey him. And immediately his fame spread abroad throughout all the region round about Galilee...they brought unto him all that were diseased, and them that were possessed with devils…And he healed many that were sick of divers diseases, and cast out many devils; and suffered not the devils to speak, because they knew him.” (Mar 1:1-34)
The core of the global cultural revolution is the deregulation and deliberate confusion of sexual norms. The dissolution of the identity of man and woman and of the moral boundaries of sexuality through the new ideology of Gender
Mainstreaming appears to bring increased freedom, but in fact it leads to the destruction of the family and the destabilization of society. This is a slippery slope to a new kind of totalitarianism.
More on this later, when we explore Antichrist’s strategies in depth.
“Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.” (Lu 9:1-2)
“Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (Mat 28:16-20)
“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry…” (I Tim 4:1-3)
“For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries: Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you: Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead…But the end of all things is at hand be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.” (I Pet 4:3-7)
Apostasy – Falling Away to the Old Gods
The assembly of gods around Jupiter’s / Zeus’ throne and the fall of the giants. 16th century ceiling mural at the Palazzo del Te in Mantua by Giulio Romano.
Massive apostasy, AKA “falling away,” for the purpose of “falling to” triggers the resurgence of the nephilim, “the fallen ones”. You’ve got to love the literary clues.
“Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints…Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.” (Jude 3, 24-25)
“Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away FIRST, and [then] that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;” (II Thess 2:3)
Just like you and me, the “man of sin”, “the son of perdition” has many names. Nimrod is one of his Bible names, meaning “he who made all the people rebellious against God”. The son of perdition also had a given name at birth, nicknames, a family or tribal name, and multiple function titles, not just in his own language but translations in other languages.
Gilgamesh is another name. This is the hero of one of the earliest post-flood pieces of literature. The Epic of Gilgamesh recounts the story of creation and reports the world-destroying flood as a recent event, with the main theme being Gilgamesh’s search for immortality.
Hammurabi is a title, or a name that its own bearer says was given by the gods, so he was previously identified by another name. Even an amateur anthropologist can recognize the name elements of “Ham” and “abi = my father”. Ancient Jewish history matches Hammurabi with Nimrod, recounted in an excellent article by David Farkas.
And the sons of Ham; Cush…And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth..And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel…” (Gen 10:8-10)
As the ruler of a theocracy, Nimrod was not just a king in the political sense, he was also the High Priest of the god(s) from whom he derived his power. This form of government is clearly articulated in the preamble to Hammurabi’s famous Code of laws.
- When Anu the Sublime, [name of the true most high God grudgingly acknowledged in Sumerian culture] King of the
- Anu-naki, [sons of God / angels]
- and Bel, [Baal, Lord, Anointed representative, Adam at the beginning of this saga] the lord of Heaven and earth, who decreed the fate of the land, [re-] assigned [at the fall] to
- Marduk, [seed of the serpent, antichrist] the over-ruling son of
- Ea, [Satan] God of righteousness, [one of his falsely assumed titles] dominion over
- earthly man, [whenever earthly man sins he yields dominion] and made him [Marduk] great among the
- Igigi, [other fallen angels from the pre-flood era]
- they called Babylon by his illustrious name, made it great on earth, and founded an everlasting kingdom in it, whose foundations are laid so solidly as those of heaven and earth; [competing with Jerusalem]
- then Anu and Bel called by name me [a standard procedure manifesting one’s new characteristics such as power and authority through adoption as a son of God/god as when God gave Jacob the new identity as Isra-el and Dani-el and his three Jewish compatriots were renamed after Babylonian gods] Hammurabi, the exalted prince, who feared God, to bring about the rule of righteousness in the land, to destroy the wicked and the evil-doers; so that the strong should not harm the weak; so that I should rule over the black-headed people like Shamash, [the sun god does, i.e. as his vicar, high priest] and enlighten the land, to further the well-being of mankind.
Notice how Hammurabi claims the prerogatives assigned by the Most High God to his anointed ones. There is probably no more damning evidence of Satan’s rebellion against God. And it’s even a legal document. Granted, like any legal case written for the benefit of the offender, it is chock full of distortions and outright lies, but facts can be perceived as well.
This ancient document is the equivalent of the preamble to the Constitution of the United States of America which “is an introductory, succinct statement of the principles at work in the full text.” The difference is that, in a humanistic democracy, the humans define right and wrong and make the rules that they think will provide for liberty, peace and prosperity.
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
What follow Hammurabi’s preamble is a long and impressive list of accomplishments for and against a horde of peoples and gods and cities, which I will not reproduce in full but summarize. Hammurabi brags that
- he made his followers rich,
- he re-established – obviously from pre-flood civilization – and purified the worship of the old gods,
- he conquered the four quarters of, i.e. the whole, world,
- he granted new life,
- he reunited the scattered inhabitants,
- he was the protecting king,
- he captured the enemy,
- he was the Elect i.e. Promised One of the oracle who fulfilled the prediction, i.e. the seed of the woman who defeats death and brings eternal life,
- he was the pure prince whose prayer is accepted,
- he made his kingdom everlastingly great;
- he was the shepherd of the oppressed and of the slaves; (think Moses),
- he recognizes the right and rules by law;
- he gave back to the city of Ashur its protecting god;
- he let the name of Ishtar of Nineveh remain in E-mish-mish; (undoubtedly earning the Sumerian equivalent of a Nobel Peace Prize “for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples”),
- he was “the Sublime, who humbled himself before the great gods;
- successor of Sumula-il; the mighty son of Sin-muballit; the royal scion of Eternity;
- the mighty monarch,
- the sun of Babylon, whose rays shed light over the land of Sumer and Akkad;
- the king, obeyed by the four quarters of the world;
- Beloved of Ninni, am I.
Nimrod and his mother-wife Semiramis revived the serpent’s lie that mankind can attain wisdom and self-determination without the Creator. The Sumerian religion resuscitated the drowned pre-flood paganism. Established before the Tower of Babel, it was therefore universal. After Babel this core religion then mutated into all the pagan religions spread throughout the world by the scattered nations, recognizable in the details despite name and cultural changes.
“In Aryan [Hitler’s vaunted antecedents recognizable as “Iran”] …the Asuras are also called Devas meaning “shining ones” and this epithet also becomes applied to both the members of the Anunnaki and the later fairies who descended from them.
Earlier scholarly sources have the name Anunnaki translated also as the variant ’Anunnagi’, meaning “shining ones” and here we have a relationship with the Vedic [India] Nagas. From the Sumerian [Iraq] Chronicles we learn that the children of Anu were “the Anunnaki who decree the fates” meaning that they themselves were also the mori or fata, the “Fairies” the scale-armoured leprachauns – the dragon kings who, in the Aryan Vedas appear alongside their divine companions and are referred to as the Nagas, who became the snake deities of India who guard a submerged treasure…
Typhon, son of Gaia and Tartarus, whose other children included these vampiric Lamias – the meremaids or naiads, and whose name is closely associated with Tartaria in Transylvania, the original home of the Dragon Queens and Kings…
Several thousand years after the contest between between Typhon and Zeus, Typhon’s fairy descendants, Ygraine, Morgana and Melusine were still portrayed in medieval church architecture with his wings and double ended tail…
In Typhon as a Dragon God, we remember Odin [Norse and German], who himself was often portrayed as a dragon or serpent, a Naga, and that he too was an Aesir, a member of the old, warlike order of gods… Every feature in the religion of the New World, discovered by Cortez and Pizarro, indicates an origin common to the superstitions of Egypt and Asia. The same solar worship, the same pyramidal monuments, and the same concomitant OPHIOLATREA [snake worship] distinguish them all.”
Remember that names are given in acknowledgement of notable characteristics, like “Slick Willy.” The subtle ways this man of sin, this son of perdition lures people into his way of thinking is expressed in a website which defines the “amazing name Nimrod“ with a gushing exaltation of what psychiatry calls an “antisocial personality” and society calls a “psychopath.”
For a meaning of the name Nimrod, Jones’ Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names reads Rebel…BDB Theological Dictionary suggests a relation to the Babylonian god Marduk , or the star-god Namra-uddu. Some scholars propose that Nimrod is the same figure as the mighty Greek hunter Orion [whose name in Sumerian means “light of heaven.”]. Tradition has Nimrod pegged as a not so positive guy [“not so positive”? Yeah, that’s how we refer to Hitler as well.] but that might be not implied by the text. His epithet “mighty hunter before YHWH” (Genesis 10:9) seems to indicate that the Lord was quite taken with Nimrod’s hunting skills. And what was he hunting for? His name suggests that he was rebellious, but he created a string of cities, which obviously requires cooperation [Hello? More like subjugation. Are you suggesting that the Sudetenland, Austria, Poland and the rest of Europe “cooperated” with Hitler?]; the opposite of rebellion. [That much is right. It’s called surrender, like the Sudetenland by Chamberlain.] The first city Nimrod created was Babel or Babylon, which became the very center of learning in which the exiled Judahites perfected the texts that we know as the Old Testament. [Probably while the Seed of the Serpent was screaming “Over my dead body!” That was arranged. See details in the books of Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Daniel.]
It stands to reason that Nimrod (probably not even a single person but rather a personified human endeavor) [actually I agree with that, in terms of a series of incarnated Antichrists] strove to rebel against primitivity and embrace culture and sophistication. Today some speak of science as “the pursuit of knowledge,” which may be precisely what “mighty hunter before YHWH” means. [Again, I would agree with that in the context of the serpent’s lie that “knowledge is power.”] The name Nimrod may literally mean Rebel but by implication it means Cultivation or even Enlightenment.”
Again, I agree. This aspect of Antichrist’s modus operandi is so very, very important that it is well worth digging in here to “get it”. Where-ever you find the highest achievements in the arts and sciences is where you will find Antichrist’s center of operations. This will be developed in greater detail in a later post, but to expedite our understanding of this critical concept, I will, as others have, allegorize Babylon with Berlin, the capitol of the world in the 1920’s, as rich in crime as it was in culture. As you read the historical record of Berlin in its prime, realize that this also describes Nimrod’s Babylon. The power brokers in Berlin were struggling to reclaim the glory of the pre-war empire that was destroyed in the catastrophe of WWI. The power brokers in Babylon were struggling to revive the glory of the pre-flood empire that was destroyed in the catastrophe of the flood. Both were successful. (Also as you read, file away for future examination the parallels between Berlin society and our own.)
Germany, and Berlin in particular, was fertile ground for intellectuals, artists, and innovators from many fields during the Weimar Republic years...[between the two wars]. Nine German citizens were awarded Nobel prizes during the Weimar Republic, five of whom were Jewish scientists, including two in medicine. Jewish intellectuals and creative professionals were among the prominent figures in many areas of Weimar culture…. With the rise of Nazism and the ascent to power of Adolf Hitler in 1933, many German intellectuals and cultural figures, both Jewish and non-Jewish, fled Germany for the United States [don’t miss that]…Remarkable for the way it emerged from a catastrophe, more remarkable for the way it vanished into a still greater catastrophe, the world of Weimar represents modernism in its most vivid manifestation…By 1919, an “influx” of labor had migrated to Berlin turning it into one of the most fertile grounds for the modern arts and sciences in history…Many foundational contributions to quantum mechanics were made in Weimar Germany or by German scientists during the Weimar period. While temporarily at the University of Copenhagen, German physicist Werner Heisenberg formulated his Uncertainty principle, and, with Max Born and Pascual Jordan, accomplished the first complete and correct definition of quantum mechanics, through the invention of Matrix mechanics…Albert Einstein rose to public prominence during his years in Berlin, being awarded the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1921. He was forced to flee Germany and the Nazi regime in 1933…Physician Magnus Hirschfeld established the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft (Institute for Sexology) in 1919…Hirschfeld…was a vocal advocate for homosexual, bisexual, and transgender legal rights for men and women, repeatedly petitioning parliament for legal changes…Philosopher Rudolf Steiner, like Diefenbach, was a follower of Theosophy. Steiner had an enormous influence on the alternative health movement before his death in 1925 and far beyond…The integration of spirituality and homeopathy is controversial…Steiner was also an early proponent of organic agriculture, in the form of a holistic concept later called biodynamic agriculture…Prostitution rose in Berlin and elsewhere in the areas of Europe left ravaged by World War I. This means of survival for desperate women, and sometimes men, became normalized to a degree in the 1920s. During the war, venereal diseases such as syphilis and gonorrhea spread at a rate that warranted government attention…Crime in general developed in parallel with prostitution in the city…Berlin eventually acquired a reputation as a hub of drug dealing (cocaine, heroin, tranquilizers) and the black market. The police identified 62 organized criminal gangs in Berlin, called Ringvereine...Apart from the new tolerance for behaviour that was technically still illegal, and viewed by a large part of society as immoral, there were other developments in Berlin culture that shocked many visitors to the city. Thrill-seekers came to the city in search of…Berlin’s erotic night entertainment venues. There were an estimated 500 such establishments, that included a large number of homosexual venues for men and for lesbians; sometimes transvestites of one or both genders were admitted…There were also several nudist venues…Artists in Berlin became fused with the city’s underground culture as the borders between cabaret and legitimate theatre blurred…While a large part of the population continued to struggle with high unemployment and deprivations in the aftermath of World War I, the upper class of society, and a growing middle class, gradually rediscovered prosperity and turned Berlin into a cosmopolitan city.
I think it is not hard for us to understand that the desires and behaviors of the inhabitants of Babylon and Berlin were the same. When we understand that Babylon was not just a glorious manifestation of humanistic triumphs by godless egomaniacs, but also a vile pit of human despair for the people enslaved by those power-addicted psychopaths, we can understand our characters’ motivation and relationships with each other: eliminate the God of salvation – and their destruction – by joining forces with other evil entities. With this in mind, reconsider President Kennedy’s famous speech with its even more famous closing statement “I am a Berliner.”
“For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. (Ro 1:20-32)